[00:00] So in March this year, Ethereum Foundation board published the EF mandate. [00:15] So that was a document guiding Ethereum Foundation members to act on Ethereum values such as crops. [00:27] Crops means censorship resistance, open source privacy and security. [00:37] So in the technical and social pillars in our activities we follow those guidance. [00:44] So why did you release the document at this time? [00:49] So I was actually the one who suggested creating the mandate. [00:59] It was the end of last year, till the target first. [01:05] And it may look strange because normally a document like this is created when an organization is about to start. [01:17] And that can be used later. [01:20] But there were a few reasons. [01:24] First, as the ecosystem matures and grows, we see the growth in the number of people and in size. [01:32] But the most important part cannot stay implicit. [01:39] Especially when we have more people at the beginning. [01:46] So you can see all the technical details of Ethereum. [02:01] You can read every specification, but it's harder to see the why. [02:11] You can see the decisions that are made, but it's harder to see why the decision is being made. [02:20] For example, why can't Ethereum transactions be fostered and other things? [02:33] And it is not because we cannot really make it faster. [02:38] It is because every choice has to be weighed against what it costs in things like crops, like you said. [02:49] Censorship resistance, security, privacy, openness. [02:55] And without explaining the why, that choice can look like a weakness. [03:01] So we thought that that was explained. [03:06] Second, looking around the environment, the world we are in, there are increasingly more systems that we are using every day, but we cannot re-inspect on our own. [03:25] Or we can sometimes leave. [03:29] And also political conflict is intensifying, and then a lot of things are mediated by AI. [03:36] So in an environment like this, that form of Ethereum that was made at the beginning, when the white paper was released, is increasingly becoming more important. [03:51] And then the third part is culture. [03:56] Culture is evolving and changing every day. Someone is meant to change every day. [04:02] But there are parts of Ethereum culture, I believe, that we lose that as Ethereum. [04:19] The culture, that part of culture, has been understood more informally, or about it, but we don't really make it very, very explicit. [04:39] And I thought it was time to make it visible. [04:43] So those are some of the strong reasons. [04:51] Okay, and it has passed about six months after the release of the document. [05:03] What are the impacts you see by that document? [05:08] Yeah, it's been great. [05:13] Not greater than I expected, but it is actually happening quicker than I expected. [05:20] First of all, this document was mainly for internal people. [05:28] And then we also said this is also a manifesto to the world, too, so that people can understand where we stand, who we are, and then what we don't. [05:38] We're not going to change forever, as long as we exist. [05:47] And so, by making that explicit, internally, every team is thinking harder about how to interpret that into their daily action. [05:59] So now people are using crops as we decide what kind of thing EF should support, and then what type of people we need. [06:14] So that is becoming more clear, and then that is definitely changing the way we think and act. [06:22] And also, this is not just internally, but also in the ecosystem, people understand that's the focus. [06:34] And naturally, different groups and teams started to actually find their own role in the missing pieces. [06:47] It was always missing pieces, but it became more clear, so some groups stepped up to organize their own teams and organization. [07:00] And also, I want to mention, because we're in Tokyo here, the Ethereum Japan community, they translated the whole 38 pages into Japanese, [07:17] which might sound not hard with AI now, with those people who don't really speak Japanese, [07:24] but we know how English to Japanese translation, it's almost still not easy with AI. [07:32] That's where I always actually compare that with how the computer was competing, [07:43] so humans were competing against computers to play a goal game. [07:49] The goal was the last game against humans. [07:57] But anyway, so it's very hard, and then the community made this beautiful translation, [08:08] and then it's out there now published on their website, Ethereum Japan's website now, if you want to check it out. [08:18] And that's actually inspiring others, including the Ethereum.org team inside EF to see that impact. [08:29] Yeah, that's a really beautiful global activity, and we also see new organizations and players coming up to the scene. [08:54] How do you see those situations, and is there any changes in the Ethereum Foundation role? [09:01] Yeah, so I think people have heard a lot of music and different organizations started, launched, and popped up in the last few months. [09:14] Some of them we had expected, some of them were not expected, [09:24] but I think overall this is exactly how we see the vision of the Infinite God, [09:34] and how we are a steward, and then other people should see themselves as everyone. [09:46] It's no one that's, and then that's why it's everyone's, and so that's actually what needs to happen. [09:55] When we look at the internet history, that's actually how all their earliest organizations like EF, [10:06] everyone sees themselves as a steward, not really trying to be that dominant power. [10:15] So that's very important. But with that, I think it's something to survey at the same time. [10:25] We as the Ethereum Foundation, our role is to really preserve the culture, the important part of the culture of Ethereum. [10:36] Which means we are going to be vocal about what is, it's not just about the understand, [10:56] we see ourselves as steward, and then we hope others also believe that too. [11:06] So we stated in a mandate that we would like to work with groups that, as allies, [11:14] that share the foundational principles together with us. [11:20] So it may not be just in the Ethereum ecosystem, but it could be other open source communities, [11:30] or groups that care about privacy. So that's by us looking at those different organizations [11:41] beyond the boundaries of the Ethereum community. [11:46] So now let's shift the gear a little bit for the building, because we are a global hackathon. [12:06] What kind of opportunities do you see for builders institutions? [12:17] Yeah, I think there are a lot of opportunities actually. [12:21] Often we hear, oh, developers are moving to AI now, and then it's harder for developers to stay in the spaces, [12:32] sometimes we secure this. But I think it's actually a lot of growing opportunities. [12:40] What we care, maybe I should impersonation, is there a lot of ways to make these clubs more accessible. [12:50] We used to feel like crops, if they're a strong trade-off, to protect crops we have to give up on something. [13:04] So that's where the opportunities are. Can we really preserve privacy without giving up on compliance, [13:16] or without giving up on UX? And then also for institutions, stablecoin is a huge thing, [13:25] but then when we think about privacy and stablecoins, what is the concentration, [13:34] the challenges coming from concentration is out there. Stablecoin is the biggest application in Ethereum now, [13:47] which is great, but also USD is stablecoin is dominant, but also we think about that. [14:05] So there are a lot of opportunities with that, obviously in the previous discussion they were talking about AI too, [14:30] so it's not just how AI can help. [14:48] Do you think Ethereum can help AI? [14:52] Like I said, there are a lot of things that we can't really, right now AIs are still growing, [15:06] and growing very, very quickly, but without asking, people start to ask questions, [15:14] but we don't really see the answers, and I think Ethereum is one of the best tools to provide alternatives to the options that we have. [15:34] We feel like we have to surrender now to use AI now. That's not going to be sustainable. [15:47] How do you share Ethereum's values to the people? [16:08] Yeah, so when we say values, people just tend to think that's actually very factory, [16:19] but it's actually the property that we just mentioned today, such as clubs. [16:30] That is hugely related to connected to our lives. [16:35] So if we talk about, maybe first not about Ethereum, [16:40] but it's actually what kind of thing Ethereum can provide, the properties Ethereum can provide, [16:46] how does your life change if we have better security, if we have better privacy, [16:53] and if you talk about that more, people can connect that technology, and they're thinking better. [17:03] But also, sometimes, without me controlling, trying to control my own business, [17:16] I think sometimes people just receive it very well. [17:20] For example, actually a few days ago, I saw someone in my talk in 2022, [17:33] and he was a high schooler, fascinated with Ethereum, but I got an idea. [17:44] Then he started to explore what Ethereum can do, and then he managed to, [17:54] and also actually now I heard that he's so patient and also supporting each other's spirit, [18:31] and that he's not the only person. [18:35] I also recently met another teenager in the Ethereum ecosystem who read the white paper. [18:43] He actually didn't connect with anyone online for a long time, [18:49] but he really loved the original vision of Ethereum. [18:55] He came online, someone connected to people, and then he read the Ethereum Foundation one day. [19:05] For him, he said, he thought this was very obvious. [19:09] He didn't really understand why he needed to release this now. [19:13] So, if you look at that, there's a lot of hope there, I thought. [19:31] Thank you so much, it looks like the time is up. [19:45] Thanks for having us. [19:47] Thank you. [19:48] Oh, do you want to mention DevCon? [19:51] Oh yes, we are having DevCon in Mumbai in November 3 to 6. [19:59] So, that's the largest Ethereum going. [20:03] So, please come to see what Ethereum ecosystem looks like. [20:09] And what we talked about. [20:18] Thanks so much.